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Now don't get me wrong, I can't stand the kid. I'll get around as to the reasons why I do in just a second. But first, I have to explain why I'm so sick and tired of all this Anti-Justin Bieber propaganda, by shamelessly ripping apart the most popular quotes that I've found nearly flooding YouTube, Facebook, fanfiction.net, and ours truly deviantArt.

"He sounds like a girl when he sings." This is the oldest, most sexist argument in the Anti-Justin Bieber book. Saying that he sounds, looks or acts like a girl as if it's an insult is degrading to women. Ladies, you need to put a stop to this. Just by calling Justin Bieber a girl, you're giving men excuses to think they're better than you! Stop using the idea of a woman or a girl as if it's a bad thing! If you're reading this and you're a girl, I'm pretty sure you sound like a girl when you sing. Right?

"Well he still sounds really bad." Still doesn't give you an excuse to insult women; or men who like to sing like women. Don't categorize so much! Plenty of men, young and old, like to sing like women or girls, and can pull it off. When you automatically assume every man that sounds like a girl is bad, you're just impacting a whole group of people.

"But he looks wimpy. He must be gay." We are in the year 2012. As of now, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay. If the fact that you're insinuating that to be gay is a bad thing means you're homophobic, then keep it to yourself. It's fine if homosexuality makes you uncomfortable, but if you repress or insult other people based off of your silly fear, that is where the human race has drawn the line. We've advanced as a species, it's time to stop making excuses for yourself and move on. Of course, if you aren't homophobic and you were just using "gay" as a slang term, and didn't mean it in the sense that it was originally intended, you still can not use "gay" as an insult because it makes it look like it's okay for others to use it as an insult, and hate just escalates from there. Don't spread homophobia.

"I still think he looks weird. He's ugly." Says you. There are literally hundreds of girls and boys who would beg to differ. Don't compare everyone to your standards. Just because you don't appreciate his appearence doesn't mean others can't. There may be people out there who don't think you're very good-looking, but they're not going to hate you because of that. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, remember?

"He's too over-exposed! He's everywhere and it's annoying! That's a good reason to hate the people who overexpose him, isn't it? Don't stem every problem to one person, find the source of it instead. Celebrity status is not simple. It's extremely complicated. He is not in control of all of his actions, in fact he's probably not in control of many of them. I should add that people like you, who go around spamming the internet about how much you hate Justin Bieber, are in fact contributing to his celebrity status. Way to fuck up.

No, I know why he's so famous! It's those fangirls! Everyone who listens to him is so stupid!" Enjoying music or a person is not stupid. Hating someone for what they enjoy is stupid. Don't be stupid. :iconnfzaruplz:

Well I still don't like his music! You can't argue against my personal taste! I certainly can not argue my way into making you enjoy his music. Everyone has their own preference. But I can argue you into knowing how to be tolerant of human beings. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. Personally, I don't like his music either, and I think that he's terrible live. But I don't hate him for that. And you shouldn't either. Don't hate.

Gawd, if you love him so much, why don't you just go marry him?" Well, for one thing I'm not planning on marrying a man, I'm planning on marrying a beautiful red-headed girl with a sweet name like Lily or Annabelle, as soon as gay marriage is legalized in Michigan. And for another, I actually don't love him. In fact, I rather dislike him. I would never hate him of course, because I beleive that hate solves nothing. But I have never loved or liked him.

Why? Well, I dislike him because he's pro-life. There is absolutely no arguing with me on that point, because I'm an atheist (I don't beleive in gods, dieties, or any form of spirit or soul), and I'm a woman. I'm also not an idiot. But despite my hostility towards his personal beleifs, the main reason I don't like Justin Bieber is that he had the disrespect to even say that he is pro-life. He is not a woman, never has been, and hopefully never will be, so he has absolutely no say in abortion whatsoever, until he gets a uterus and injects semen into it and succesfully becomes pregnant. And even then, he should still not have a say in what other women do with their body. Oh, and it doesn't help that I really don't like his fashion sense. Pardon me, but his clothes just scream "I AM THE PRINCE OF THE DOUCHE BAGS"...

If you don't like him, why are you defending him? To stop the hate. If you need to re-read go ahead, because no further explanation on those points above are necessary. Hate needs to be stopped. The spreading of intollerant ideals need to be stopped. Human beings are impressionable, and we are, maybe not entirely of our own will, brainwashing ourselves into being sexist, homophobic, ignorant and hateful creatures. This can be stopped all by doing simple things like not using certain words or saying certain things.

My final peice of advice? Ladies in particular; Do your research! Don't hate Justin Bieber for stupid reasons, but make sure you know your reasons not to support him either!

D O N ' T - H A T E :: E D U C A T E !

EDITS --
1) There is a difference between homophobia & homosexual hatred; thank you to JHCross for pointing that out!
2) I am not completely innocent on this matter. As most of you reading this probably do as well, I have a dark history of spreading not only Justin Bieber hate, but sexism too. But I am living proof that people can grow up and come to the realization that words have a larger impact than we think. I am proud of my history only because I know that we as humans can change. (:
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Luigi-Severus-Bieber Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with everything, his haters are pretty bad when it comes to people, he did nothing wrong, but people decided to hate him and I think the haters are one of the main reasons for his past two years of bad behavior, I'm a Belieber myself and I defend him against haters endlessly.
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Grueler Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2013
Thank you. As much as I dislike Justin Beiber fans, the Justin Beiber haters are much, much worse.

Heck, the angriest of them are just fourteen year olds that are pissy because teenage girls would rather sleep with a handsome guy with a lot of money that can sing and play several musical instruments than with a random fourteen year old.
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oOChocolateOo Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I can't even express how much I agree... My closest friend likes him, I don't, but I don't bash her taste in music. I find some of his fans annoying, but I don't hate HIM for the actions of some of his fans.
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Lefty916 Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2012
I hear the excuses: "he is gay" and "oh he sounds like a girl" all the time to this day, I see all the fights on pages and stuff like that that some fans are little too obsessive, but I know not all the fans are like that. But they also do make some pretty silly excuses too. I guess this goes for both the haters and the fans, that to just do research first, and don't say silly excuses. Like the haters say "oh he is sooo gay" and some fans would say " You don't like him?, well go jump off a bridge" or this one is said all the time "Your jealous of him because he make more money than you" Oh another one haters say is they call him a she, not sure if you mentioned that or I don't think i noticed it if it's there....... So I guess you have to look at from two point of views... Btw Personally I don't like his music, I just ignore, or I try to,but I don't ever call him gay, or a girl, or whatever because those kind of comments are just immature and offensive to other people. Sorry for the huge paragraph..... ha ha ha.....
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marawr Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012
Yup, I added the, "JB is a she" bullshit too. Totally insulting to women. Ther isn't anything wrong with a man that sounds or looks like a woman; drag queens exist and there is nothing wrong with them.

Thanks for the comment. I totally agree with you, I don't like his music, but I don't hate him because of that. Other people have every right to love his music, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just loving or hating him for the wrong reasons that are stupid.
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Lefty916 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012
Oh Must of not noticed it..... whoops.... i agree its is totally insulting to women, i find it really weird when girls call him that. when don't they know that are insulting themselves kinda.... and Yeah they is nothing wrong with that at all. And your welcome! Exactly! People are just making up silly excuses to hate or love him.
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Tenma-Yuuki Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
generally, idc for JB, but this is still so true either way.
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marawr Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2012
Lulz well good for you. I would be dissapointed if you DID care for Beiber. Glad you think so! <3
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Tenma-Yuuki Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
xD
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ZombieGaGaloo Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012
I can't say it better.
Though I'm a little uncomfortable with the pro-life part, I believe man can give their opinion on it. Because well, they fertilized the egg, so without them there couldn't be babies in this world. They are a part of it.
I'm not exactly for abortion, and I'm not exactly against it, but to me it's still killing a miracle, but if it's absolutely necessary, eh. I'm very disgusted by how abortion was first introduced in America (I'm not sure if it was introduced internationally by that racist pig), so there's a huge reason as to why I'm part pro-life.
But your advice was very well written and helpful that I hope my members come to their senses.
Thank you.
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marawr Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
Thanks! Glad you could agree with me. XD

Ah, yes, I figured the abortion thing would spark some issues. The thing is, if I may rebuttle for a moment, men aren't the ones giving birth. Besides, not ALL men are the ones to fertalize the egg, are they? The discussion of a man and a woman about abortion of THEIR child is a discussion that should be privately done between the two of THEM. No one else should be able to decide it for them. That is the only case where a man is allowed to help decide, but he should not have a complete say so.
Men should especially have no say in an abortion when the woman was raped, or if the woman is underage, and particularly when the woman could die in child birth, which, yes, IS predictable at the stage abortions are legally accepted.
By the way, at the stage abortions are legally accepted, it is not even a fetus that is inside a woman, but a fertalized egg. After the period of two weeks, abortions are no longer considered legal, and they do not take place, at least not in USA. So it is not "killing babies", it is instead un-fertalizing the egg in the woman before it can even turn into a fetus, let alone a baby.
I admire the fact that you beleive in miracles, but you have to remember not everyone does. I know for a fact that miracles don't exist, just like you know for a fact that miracles do. Not everyone in the world is religious, or of the same religion, so one religion should not have a say over the other, or the lack of one.
And finally, if abortion IS illegal, there will still be abortions in the world. It had been introduced to the world long before you think it was; abortions went on in the stone ages, when women were unhealthy or struggling with pregnancy.
So as you can see, there is a clash of opinions and struggles that go on in the case of repressing women from their choice. If having a child may harm her body or mind in any way, she should be able to get an abortion without the government, controlled by religious, white men, telling her she can't. If you try to weed out which abortion is necesary and which isn't, you'll only be repressing certain groups of women and you'll harm women who really need it who just don't fit your judgement. That is not just an opinion, it is a right.

Hope that could clear some things up for you. :)
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ZombieGaGaloo Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
When it comes to a husband and wife discussing their abortion, I agree with you on that. I've seen a video where a woman was getting an abortion, and these Christian extremists were yelling at her at her husband (disclaimer: we christians are not like that, it makes us look reaaaally bad :c). Protests again a woman whose just about to get an abortion is just rude, so yes, the discussion should absolutely be between husband and wife. I realized I should have used different wording for baby, haha. But there still are fetuses who are sucked up in a vacum, there's videos I believe. They try and get away from the knife, which cuts their head off so the fetuses fit in the vacum. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of that.
Then again, the women who are having abortions because they had sex out of marriage shouldn't have sex anyways.
And yes, there would be illegal abortions. But there would be uncertified doctors and back alley abortions.
I forgot that abortion has been around for a long time, but my mother told me of a woman who had something to do with abortion. She was white, and she wanted the blacks to not have stupid babies or something stupid like that. I'm not sure if that's American only, or if my mother doesn't know how long abortion has been around.
But when abortion is wrong, is when a "slut" or "whore" keeps having so much sex, that she ends up getting pregnant. That's wrong, and they're abusing themselves and sex.
Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of these facts.
Thank you.
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marawr Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
The fetus thing is dead wrong. Feti do not have the will or ability to mobilize, this means they can't move. I have no idea where you got that info but it sounds a little silly, lol, you may want to verify where you got that.

Now, as for the "slut" or "whore" thing...Wow. I'm sorry, but that's absolutely ridiculous. Sexual intercourse is NOT entirely meant for reproduction. If it was, we wouldn't have homosexuals, but we do. Again, I'm sorry, but obviously you're really not updated on the facts my dear. Let me clue you in:
As I've said, sex is not just for making babies. It's a stress releiver. That's why we masturbate, which means to have sex with yourself in case you don't know, and yes EVERYONE does it, and those who don't are considered sexually unhealthy and may not be able to have babies in the future. Sex and masturbation are NECCESSARY for human beings. Consider the clitoris! Sorry to get scientific, but we have to remember that the clit is the same thing as a penis, but much, much smaller; except we can't ejaculate with our clits. So why does the clit feel so good? And why do we even have it? Because it feels good, and that's it. Literally, women only have clits because they are stress releivers. That's why we masturbate, that's why we have sex; to releive stress, to make bonds with other people, to FEEL GOOD. I have had sex NUMEROUS times and I've never been married and I don't ever WANT to get married; that DOESN'T mean I'm a whore or a slut, it means I'm giving myself the pleasure that I deserve.
Again, to mention things scientifically: The bonobo's, a species of apes that we are very close to along the evolutionary line, are very sexually promiscuous. Females have sex with each other, males have sex with each other, and females/males have sex, and they do it ALL THE TIME. Why? To resolve arguments and make peace with each other. The do it to make each other feel good, or to calm each other down, or to console each other after a bad day. That is what humans do with each other in a sense, is they have sex to make relationships with each other, not JUST to have babies.
Sorry to go on a rant, but your idea of a slut or a whore is, no offense, but a terrible one, and very sexist. Having sex often does not mean the woman is abusing herself or sex. It means she is fulfilling her needs as a human being. May I remind you that NOT having sex is actually bad for your fertility? So even if you think sex is just for having children, not having sex lessens your chances of ever even getting pregnant. Want to have kids? Have sex. A lot. The more you have sex, the easier it will be to have SAFE sex, and know what to do and who to do it with.
One more time; the number of times you have sex doesn't matter. I have had sex more times than I can count, with seven people, maybe more, both male and female, and all different kinds of sex too. And I am proud of it, and I don't appreciate being called a whore just because I'm sexually and mentally healthy. I know you didn't mean to call me one, but there are plenty of people out there who would abuse the word whore just to wrongfully do so.
If you must insist on calling someone a whore, which I don't advise you doing, please just use it for the women who cheat on men that they're not in open relationships with, or break men's hearts. Of course you have to remember that some women like to be in two different relationships at once, and have sex with multiple people, and that's okay, as long as they disclose this with both the partners she has, and as long as both of her partners are also okay with it.
Please use those terms more sensitively, thanks :)
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ZombieGaGaloo Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012
I don't think I called you a slut or whore. And I'm not going to get in a discussion about sex, sorry. Unfortunately, I must end this conversation, I have way too many things to do :c
It was a pleasure talking to you
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marawr Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012
Again, I know you didn't call me a slut or whore directly, but the insinuation that those who have sex often are automatically sluts or whores indirectly means you did. I know you didn't mean to of course.
It has been a pleasure. :) Thank you for the chat my dear. I'm always up for a friendly debate so please don't be shy!
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Kitsunexen Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Student General Artist
Both sides of the Justin Beiber hate/love have their extreames. The superfans who would take a bullet for him and the super haters who would rather shoot themselfs then be stuck in a room with him. This really happens with any fandom or popular celebrity. I really dont see the point in joining in with either sides because both are a waste of time (superfans are wasting their time fantasizing about him and haters thinking of ways to kill him). I dont care myself about him. I dont really care about his music and I dont like his fashion choices (low riding skinney jeans yuck!) But still not a good enough reason to hate him and want him dead. I personally feel bad for his parents who have to deal with all the hate their son is getting, but then again their rich soooo... bleh
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marawr Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012
Totally true! Thanks for the comment, glad you see it my way. :]
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SasuIsGay Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The main reason I dislike JB is his fans... Seriously, they just shoved their opinion about him, telling him he is the best, and completely rejected and ignored the fact etc Even if you talk to them nicely... Not to mention, they also just come to a random music video and says JB is better etc >>
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marawr Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012
You have to remember that people go to random music videos just so say the music video is better than Justin Bieber, even though that's irrelevant. :icongegplz: It may be true that some, or even a majority, of his fans are obnoxious, but that doesn't mean ALL his fans are. :3
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YamaHaru Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012
I agree...
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yellowsquare Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Student Digital Artist
AMEN sister!
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marawr Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012
:salute:
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yellowsquare Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Student Digital Artist
XDDD
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kin-gyo Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well done.
I'm gonna go ponder.
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marawr Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
Gracias.
Pondering is good for the mind, haha~
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kin-gyo Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Indeed.
One of my favorite activities! :)
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PenumbraChey Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
There are things I despise/dislike/find annoying in the world...but one should never wear their hate out on their sleeve.

Unfortunately for the misguided, the internet gives the endless ability to Positively re-enforce their Negativity.
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marawr Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
Too true. It's sad how many people don't seem to realize that words make a larger impact than we think. I'm certainly not innocent myself, I've only just come to the realization of how much hate can be spread by doing such simple things. ):

Thanks for the comment~
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PenumbraChey Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
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xCaligula Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Love your arguments, but the homophobia one is a little off. There is a difference between being homophobic and being a homo-hater. Homophobes really have an issue with homosexuality that they can't control. My mom actually is homophobic, she just feels weird whenever she sees homosexual couples, but she keeps it to herself. Homo-haters are people who take it to an extreme where they verbalize it. So, really, there's nothing wrong with homophobia if they keep it to themselves. After all, one can't help what they're afraid of, they can only help how they act about it.
Other than that, love your points! I used to make these same stupid arguments, and now I realize how wrong I was. I even sometimes catch myself dancing to Baby because it's catchy.
Pro-life isn't sexist, though. I'm pro-life because I was almost aborted and therefore almost missed my chance at life. However, I don't force my pro-life on everyone else, I'm pro-life for me and if someone asks if I think they should get an abortion, I'd answer no, but it's really the carriers choice. Just because I don't agree with it doesn't take their right away
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marawr Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
You are absolutely correct! :iconiriaplz: Thank you for mentioning that bit about homophobia, I'm sorry to have forgotten it. I'll edit my journal when I'm done being lazy, lol. Thanks for the comment mah wuv <3
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